what happened to the band members? where is or what happened to billy also are any of the band members around from the pepperpots and if so can they tell us what happened to billy
Many of the songs on Beats were later issued on an album credited to The Pop Machine on Design/Pickwick records. The hit songs covered included Hitchin A Ride & The Long And Winding Road; which may or may not have been done by different performers. While the performances are mediocre at best I actually like most of the originals. They are, for the most part, well written tunes and could really benefit from a more talented group of musicians!
the family cat answered a main question of this album. I have a canadian issue on International Artist which is a sub of Pickwick. Very thick pressing. I never hate this album. with a bit of EQ you'll find the MONO mix is very good and great drum sound with cool guitar. Not the best vocals, but not bad either, very Post Pubescent vocals, like frat brothers singing almost garage at times but not quite. The non Beatles tracks trump the covers, but even they are not bad. Others have said and I agree, this is one of the better Beatles cover groups of 1964. Great soundstage mix. I always thought the connection of the Faul rubbish hoax was just that, I thought it was a band from New York, out of Pickwick and possibly connected to Lou Reeds time there. The Family cat squashes that, and they really did record in UK! Please Family cat if you read this again, can you cite your source reference? That would be cool. I agree with the Remo Four feel for sure. Pre 66 though. It's not recorded in 1961 as someone mentioned, that was just the printing setting of the back cover that they just kept using with Old jazz/blues reissues. does not correspond with the Recording date.ON top of the pickwick connection, the Lou Reed thing was spurred by seeing a few reissues of the Primitives "do the ostrich" with the exact same cover picture featured on the Billy Pepper LP, which in Canada is simply called "the mersey beats" Must have confused lots of kids in Canada, because there was a series on ARC canada of unknown group called the Mersey beats doing archaic versions of UK pop rock songs, some killer. Again Cat, can you site the source for your info?
I had this album, given to me by my folks soon after landing in Seldovia, got left behind in Klawock. I recall liking about half the tunes, anyway. Yeah, they were took at first, and got real Beatles records after that. This thing WAS cheaper. Made me want an electric guitar, so it wasn't all bad. I still remember the songs, and want a copy.
the family cat
The mastermind behind the Billy Pepper & the Pepperpots album was a Pye MD called Bill Shepherd and he had a hit single in the States via the actor John Fraser with WHY DON'T THEY UNDERSTAND covered by George Hamilton IV.
Mainly he recorded Easy Listening LPs but like many he tried to cash in on Beatlemania by producing a budget line album credited to Billy Pepper & the Pepperpots who were from the Wirral.
Shepherd and John Fraser were the writers of a number of songs deliberately styled on the Beatles of 1963 with a few Lennon/McCartney songs thrown in as well.
In the States the album was credited to the Beats.
The songs are in many cases similar to those the Beatles gave away or just demoed like One & One is Two.
Now on CD under the title of MERSEYMANIA:20 Fab Sounds of the 60s there's no mention of Billy Pepper & the Pepperpots who unwittingly ended up thrown into the Paul Is Dead rumour as one of the members was called William Campbell-supposeldy Paul's replacement.
Even Bill Shepherd was rumoured as his name is close to Billy SHEARS (Shepherd=sheep=shears)
Whatever it works on its own terms-like the Pete Best 4 who recorded in the States with ex Remo Four members.
Can't see anything wrong with this album-it does what it set out to do and has ended up as a collectable anyway
I actually like this album. I'm very confused by the anger so many of you give this band. For one, they are two Beatles songs on this album, I want to Hold Your Hand, and I saw Her Standing there, as well as other songs. What is really confusing is that the album I have has a pressing date of 1961, several years before the Beatles released anything in the US. The songwriters are not listed on any of the songs, and to be honest the version of 'I saw Her standing there' revivals the Beatles' version, while I want to Hold your Hand is absolutely pathetic. Someone please give insight as to the 1961 pressing year, otherwise, the 'evidence' points to the fact that maybe this band actual wrote those. I am not the anti-christ, just looking for answers on this strange group.
I got my copy in CD, MERSEYBEAT with Ferry Boat and screaming girls! yeah! yeah! I love This CD.
God, this has to be the oldest Internet site in the world! I see posts I did last century!
This poorman's fab four deserves, an "A" for effort. More than I can say for some of the other low-budget beatle clones. They ought to make a cd collection of the Beats and thier contempories. So what if they're not as good as the Beatles. If they were, do you think they'd be waisting thier time on this crap?
I want to go back in time and stop this stuff from being recorded. Awful stuff, this. Bad vocals, lyrics and production. We aren't celebrating this are we?
Beats!? BILLY PEPPER & THE PEPPERPOTS release more albums we tought.
Beats -Merseyside Sound.(label:Pickwick)
Merseymania(Billy name in the back cover)Label:Hurrah Records-England.(same as Beats!)
More Merseymania(Label: Allegro)
Beat-A-Mania(Live in Britain) Label:Allegro.
So,The Peppers recorded 3 albums total.
Okay they are BILLY PEPPER & THE PEPPERPOTS from Liverpool- England yes! MERSEYMANIA was the original name, after that they release MORE MERSEYMANIA(both in 1964, nt 62) available on CD (in England)I have 3 songs on the Pickwick album: DISCOTEQUE 60's.
I love this album THE BEATS or B E A T S? Anyway, i like the songs: Go to Get Another Girl, Maybe i Will, Your kind of love and TELL ME I'M THE ONE, they did great job. be young, be foolish, be happy, why not?
Among the other Beatle ripoff bands were The Liverpools ("Four LIVERuppers who POOLed their talents") and the Beatle Buddies (an all girl group).
When I was a kid, a friend of mine had the Liverpools album, and by god it was horrid.
The recordsleeve states that it was released in 62, thats before beatles released "I want to hold your hand" and "I saw her standing there", is this relaiable information, or does the year mean something else?
you might know this already- but Oriole( remember the sputniks?) actualy put out a 2 volume lp of a lot of the second division liverpool bands- stuff like the clayton squares , the undertakers etc etc volume 2 is very rare. cant remember who else was on ( its nearly 40 odd years ago) all I know is I could never afford them -- I couldnt even afford any of the beatles albums when they were coming out - singles were six shillings ans six pence. a lot of money when you had five shillngs aweek pocket money!!!weren't oriole also responsible for putting out the first couple of tamla singles in england ?? anyone??the first beatles album in this country was please please me.
Back in '63 when I was five years old, I wanted the Beatles first album, Meet the Beatles. Instead, my parents bought me this shameful piece of tripe. As soon as I looked at the cover, I knew it wasn't the Beatles. I remember them saying "yes, it's the Beatles," spelling out B-E-A-T-L-E-S, trying to pass off the exclamation marks on the cover as the additional letters to make up the word Beatles. I was a pretty good speller at five years old. I listened to the album once and it was like being stabbed in the ears. Yet, I wish I still had it, just for the novelty. I wonder what happened to those guys. Maybe they became bakers as did Pete Best when he was replaced by Ringo!!!!?
Hola mis estimados amigos, que gusto poder ver a grupos de la decada del 60', esa epoca que nacieron Los Beatles.
Un gran saludo para todos desde Argentina...!! yeah yeah yeah
Best beat number, most well done and really pertaining to the beat scene '64, is "Joshua Fit The Battle" on side two.
Do you have the Beatle rip-off cheapo featuring Lou Reed??
I have actually seen a copy of this album at a used vinyl store in Columbus, Ohio...Lost Weekend Records. Aside from collectors of kitsch, I can't imagine anyone would actually want to listen to these crappy Beatles rip-off albums!